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Albino Bristlenose Plecos

Post by: ken89 on May 12, 2007, 09:36:49 PM
hi im kinda new catfish, have kept fish for 5years but first time bought catfish. bristlenose are catfish rite? lol.
ummm im wondering the best conditions for breeding because i bought a trio and the females are 7,8cm and males is bout 10cm. i got a holow log which is about 35cm long and its sides are bout 7cm diameter. is this ok for them to breed in or do i have to buy drift wood?

thanx. ken


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: EowynJane on May 12, 2007, 10:10:47 PM
I don't know much about breeding and I'm not sure how big they have to be before they can breed... but I believe they need drift wood in their diet.  I do know they also need spirulina (blue/green algae), love blanched veggies like zuchinni and sometimes meaty treats such as shrimp pellets.  I feed my BN the HBH Veggie wafers and shrimp pellets and he loves both of them.  A good, varied, diet will help them to breed successfully.

Plain clay flower pots also make good caves for them, you can get them at Michaels craft stores cheap.  Just make sure they are the plain old clay and nothing else.  Mine have the brown/orangish look to them and they've worked fine for me.  You can test them by pouring vinegar over them, if it fizzes it's not safe for the tank.  Also you can soak them in a bucket in dechlorinated water and test the water after a few days, mine make the ph drop slightly but not enough to bother the fish.  I think they would enjoy multiple caves as they each like to have their own territory.  What size of tank are they in?

Good luck with them... and don't forget to post pictures!!!  We love pictures on here!  :)


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 13, 2007, 11:12:26 AM
Ken,
You should get yourself a small piece of driftwood for them to rasp on.  They need plenty of fiber in their diets.  They have long intestinal tracts common to herbivorous fish and fiber keeps things moving along, preventing blockages which can become severe enough to be fatal.  If you're not intending on getting a small piece of driftwood, you should be feeding fresh veggies every other day.  I only blanch veggies for the babies until they're about .5--75 inches long.  After that, it's only raw veggies, augmented by bloodworms once a week and hikari algae wafers every other day.  With feeding fresh veggies, you'll need to do weekly water changes religiously as the sheer bulk of biomass could quickly degrade water conditions.  For my BN/ABN breeding tanks, I have at least one big sponge, and a HOT filter in each tank.  I alternate cleanings of these during the weekly water changes.  For the breeding caves, I use homemade tile caves and they've proved excellent. 
good luck
mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: crystalview on May 13, 2007, 06:32:39 PM
MPP  The ones you are sending me are you still blanching the zucchini?  What other brand names have they been eating?  Is there a reason to blanch and then not to blanch when older?


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 13, 2007, 07:41:57 PM
Hi Crystalview,
The ones you're going to recieve alternate between raw zuchini and hikari algae wafers on a daily basis and frozen bloodworms once a week.  I blanch the zuchini when they're first out of the cave because it makes the zuchini easier on the babies to eat and get their bellies full.  They don't have to spend as much energy rasping the zuchini and I've found I hardly lose any babies this way.
hope that helps
mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: EowynJane on May 13, 2007, 08:06:15 PM
Really...  raw zuchinni!?  I'm going to have to try that and see how he likes it.  Good call on the tile caves Mike, I had forgotten about those.


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: ken89 on May 13, 2007, 11:24:03 PM
For the breeding caves, I use homemade tile caves and they've proved excellent. 
good luck
mike

hmmm wat this lol sry!! maybe a pic would help me understand lol. ummm with zuchini i peel skin and microwave for 15 secs then give it to them but they dont eat it.... i tried leaving skin stil doesnt work... any ideas? same goes for my big pleco. he eats floating food..... he goes upside down and eats the color enhancing pelets i feed to flowerhorns and severums. hes going red too!


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 13, 2007, 11:34:02 PM
Hi Ken,
It's just a DIY tile cave.  I don't microwave or blanch the zuchini for the fish over 3/4 inch.  I peel it and clip it to the tank wall.  For my panaques, I leave it unpeeled.  Some of them like the skin better than the inside.  Here's pics of the caves.




And how I feed bn's zuchini

mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: ken89 on May 14, 2007, 12:32:01 AM
o lol ty. is there a way to improve the breeding? or will they breed when the time is rite after i get some homes for them?


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 14, 2007, 01:13:47 AM
They like a little bit cooler temps than some other tropicals. 74-76 degrees is usually where I keep them.  Once you get them a home, just feed them well, keep that tank clean and you'll have some baby bns.
mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: ken89 on May 23, 2007, 02:14:56 AM
i do 30 percent water changes weekly and oh my water is brown is this bad?? i think its due to the log....


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 23, 2007, 09:33:46 AM
Ken,
Yes I think you're right.  The brown staining of your water is probably being caused by the log.  I think your log is releasing tannins and that's what is staining your water.  Did you soak it prior to putting it into your tank?  You can take it out and soak it in a rubbermaid or similar tub or even a plastic trashcan.  You can also use carbon in your filters to remove it.  Tannins can lower the ph of the water by acidifying it as it is a weak acid (taninc acid).  Your 30% water changes are probably mitigating most of that acidification but I'm sure that a little is occurring.  Anything in extreme is dangerous IMHO so I would suggest taking the log out and soaking it a couple of times overnight in clear water.  Some folks boil their wood to hasten the process. 
good luck
mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: ken89 on May 31, 2007, 12:32:29 AM
hey thanx for the info. just wondeirng if this is always true...

The most fascinating part of all this, is that when the male is ready to breed or is protecting a clutch, he has a bright pink spot on the top of his head and on his tail there's a pink stripe. Shortly after he has done his father duties it goes back to the normal albino coloring.

was reading if so my male is ready to breed because its reallllllli pink on the head and the tail is dark pink. but i dont see any babies!!!!. lol


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: mpp on May 31, 2007, 12:54:22 AM
I had never heard that Ken,
believe it or not though, I'm colorblind so and pink is one of those colors I just can't seem to see.  It's not that I don't see colors, I just see them differently and some colors just don't register very well with me.  I know my fish are in breeding mode by behavior.  Wish I could help but I don't think I can.
regards
mike


Title: Re: albino bristlenose
Post by: ken89 on May 31, 2007, 01:21:49 AM

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